I have an idea....

[Silky]

Let's pick a topic...a controversial one (because here we can) and let's talk about it. Let's do it! Let's break the mold and talk like real people!!

I suggest....body hair! YAY!

[Scott]

Nay.. you'd win that one easily.... How about.. ear wax!!

[Silky]

Ear wax...hate it. 'Nuff said. :)

[BlueTac]

do you think you could make a candle if you had enough of it?

[Dave]

.... and stick it in your ear?

[TinCupid]

Hmmmm.

[Doux]

lets talk about .....
??????
******
i dont really know what i must say so forget this

[123456789]

What would you use for a wick?

[PDG]

Are you being serious? Cuz I could always say those 2 magic words that set every board on fire.

Michael Jacks...[muffle]

*being dragged away unconscious by guys in dark suits

[HariSeldon]

I tell you something in my Sunday paper that really pissed me off yesterday...
It seems the whinning victims of the Oklahoma bombing are moaning that "they weren't fairly compensated." They point to the "victims" of 911, the vast majority of which became millionaires thanks to their lottery win.

The Oklahoma victims and their families certainly cashed in, but no where near the level that the 911 victims did.

I mean, yes what happened was tragic. I feel sorry for the people that died and for those who lost their loved ones. However, the attitude that they are entitled to vast wealth because of this (at our expense) is absurd.

Why is their death worth $1,000,000 ? What about the guy who died from ______ cause on 9/11? No one thinks that some guy who was mugged on 9/11 deserves to be loaded down with tax-free wealth to last a lifetime.

I am sure that people will give me hate for daring to disparage the victims of 9/11 but I am sorry, just because they were killed by people who hate Americans does not mean they should be enriched. They should be treated like any other victim. If there is some sort of standard victim compensation fund set up, fine. Just don't give them anything extra that someone with a similar tragedy that wasn't newsworthy gets.

Hell, it's even spread to the victims of the recent school shooting. The government sent almost 1/2 million dollars (so far) and much much much more has been donated by people to the tribe who turns around and doles out some to the victims including the family of the kid who killed everyone!

Again, a true tragedy. If people want to donate money, fine. However the government has no place in taking tax dollars and arbitraily saying, your tragedy is worth $450,000 while the next person's tragedy is worth 0.

[msfrigyfrog]

i fully agree with you Hari all those tragedies are terrible tragidies, but i dont see the parents of the molested child ( or the child) or the families of cancer victims or car accidents etc recieveing govt money. i firmly believe that those who can and desire to donate money to help any victim of any tragedy should do so but for the govt to reach into my pocket and take for whatever cause THEY decide is deserving is wrong. Doesnt the govt reach into our pockets enough already?

[down2earth2]

Back to body hair. I think women look great with armpit hair. Once a hippy, always a hippy, I suppose.

[123456789]

Mmmmm.... bearded ladies!

[Silky]

Pit hair, d2e2?? Seriously? That's just too...ummm...natural for me.

[down2earth2]

[QUOTE=Silky]Pit hair, d2e2?? Seriously? That's just too...ummm...natural for me.[/QUOTE]
I think it's whatever you're use to. People in the south love salt on watermelon and cantalope, which to me is just awful. If you look at it scientifically, there must be a good reason for armpit hair, or it wouldn't be there. The scent of a woman is a good thing. :D

[Scott]

[QUOTE=down2earth2]If you look at it scientifically, there must be a good reason for armpit hair, or it wouldn't be there. [/QUOTE]


To prevent friction.... now don't ask me about the hair on my backside.

[Silky]

[QUOTE=down2earth2]I think it's whatever you're use to. People in the south love salt on watermelon and cantalope, which to me is just awful. If you look at it scientifically, there must be a good reason for armpit hair, or it wouldn't be there. The scent of a woman is a good thing. :D[/QUOTE]

I'm a salt on watermelon and cantalope person...yummm! As for the armpit hair...yeah, I suppose there's a purpose for it....but I prefer the sleek look. As for the scent...as long as it's a scent and not a stench. :)

[Jaygre]

One of the things I love most is walking out into the garden on a warm summer morning, picking a tomato, or pea pods. Yum...

[Dave]

Where did my reply go?

Salt - no

Armpit Hair - yes for guys no for gals

Compensation - what a weird concept! It's mostly just greed though.

Gardens in summer - drink cold beer but leave the weeds alone.

[123456789]

About the compensation thing; I think the mentality behind that is beautifully demonstrated in the audio clip about a woman calling 911 over a hamburger. In her mind, she has the RIGHT to get a hamburger the way she wants it or, at least, the way it's advertised. She is confusing her RIGHTS as a citizen and her PRIVILEGES as a consumer. It would seem as though everybody in the western world thinks that if they are wrongly disadvantaged, they have a God-given RIGHT to sue for compensation. Within a week of the 9-1-1 'attacks', Bush threw 40 billion $ at the victims and the property owners to pay for the cleanup, the investigation, etc. not to mention the almost ten billion in insurance money that was paid out as well as all the claims that were settled independantly all for 3000 dead people. It's sad to compare this to the measly amount of money which the international community (as a whole) contributed to helping the Rwandan people during the massacre of more than one million people (I was proud to be a Canadian during that saga - but we still could have done more.) Actually, instead of helping (and after having sold them a ton of weapons,) the western world packed its bags, shipped its people out, and left the poor Africans to their troubles. The same thing happens all over the world while people in the States (and elsewhere) complain that their hamburgers are not just right. There is no sense of perspective left since it would seem, these days, that everyone has a right and nobody has a responsibility. The two should go hand-in-hand. This entire topic just makes me want to renounce my citizenship to the world.
A poor man shames us all. -Anon.

[PDG]

Ok, my second attempt at controversy thanks to my good friends at www.standpoint.us.

(Ok, they're not really my friends...just great designers)

http://www.standpoint.us/images/06PE_r1_c1.jpg

http://www.standpoint.us/images/12WL_r1_c1.jpg

http://www.standpoint.us/images/01BT_r1_c1.jpg

*quietly standing back while waiting for great controversy to errupt

[Dave]

Controversy?

Issue 1 - Fuel Prices/
Okay in most parts of the world beer is more expensive than petrol (or gas as you guys like to call it), but consider what has to be done to get that resource to you ..... research, exploration, drilling, moving, refining, tankering to the gas station and dispensing. all that money to get an ever decreasing resource for you to waste on a gas guzzling vehicle that takes just YOU from point A to point B in an ever increasing amount of time due to traffic congestion.

The price should be forced up and up so that you treat it as a valuable and rare commodity and not like water .... which also can be more expensive than petrol! :)

Issue 2 - Wages
Over here they introduced a thing called minimum wage I believe it exists in some form or another in the US. Every now and then they increase it and industry groans and moans and complains but has to put the wages of their lowest paid employees up by another few pence or cents to compensate just to get them back to the minimum they started out on a few years ago .... not to the level above the miniimum they'd strglled, sweated and toiled their way to over those years. Those poor hard done by bosses they deserve another £100,000 pay increase to compensate them .... oh and don't forget another sackful of share options while we're at it.

Issue 3 - George W Bush
With any luck after the up coming elections here we wont be involved any more. Tony Blair and his warmongering government will be kicked out as they so richly deserve for all their lying and deceipt of the British Public (yes my opinion has changed).

We wont be involved because your GWB and our opposition parties (Sinn Fein / The IRA excluded) don't get along with your glorious leader.

Sadly luck isn't on our side. I'm wondering who we will be taking on next .... Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, N. Korea .... just have to wait and see I guess.

Anybody stirred up yet or shall we go back to body hair?

[123456789]

The first one is funny. It reminds me of how much people complain about the price of gas here in Canada. Gas is about a dollar a litre ($4.50 per gallon) here. Coca-Cola is about the same price (and requires no exploration, drilling, R&D, refining etc..) but nobody complains about that. Ketchup costs about 4 times that much.
Again, it's all about perspective. If we had invested all the money that goes and has gone into the automobile industry since the beginning into public transportation instead, we could have developed instant teleportation by now. I know, I'm a dreamer ...but I'm not the only one. ;)

-edited-
*Dave beat me to it.*

[Dave]

"If you have to take me apart to get me there then I don't want to go" (quote from Restaurant at the End of the Universe by Douglas Adams). Though I did like the stepping plates from the Puppeteer homeworld :ufo:

[down2earth2]

[QUOTE=Jaygre]One of the things I love most is walking out into the garden on a warm summer morning, picking a tomato, or pea pods. Yum...[/QUOTE]I'm so with you on this one. Mmmm. On a really good mmorning there'll be hummingbirds zipping about.

[Dave]

[QUOTE=down2earth2]I'm so with you on this one. Mmmm. On a really good mmorning there'll be hummingbirds zipping about.[/QUOTE]
Not over here there wont!

I've seen them in Greece just outside the hotel apartment we were staying in. It was a beautiful surprise.

[123456789]

Dave, what if (statistically) teleportation was made to be safer than driving? You couldn't get hit by a drunk teleporter now could you. Besides, if it's good enough for Captain Kirk, then it's good enough for me. ;)

[Dave]

It's the flies that bother me :)

[Jaygre]

On a little different note (staying out of the politics, for now) This morning I saw three things I have never seen since living here, and of course, my camera was not at the ready, but I enjoyed seeing it without trying to capture:

1. A red fox dashed across the field and hung out with the cattle for awhile.
2. two grey mourning doves sitting in the tree, then on our patio for at least 10 minutes, and,
3. Two turkey vultures (real name) were hanging out as well?

What's going on here?

[123456789]

Maybe the fox got into a fight with the cattle, the doves tried to break it up, and the vultures were hungry and waiting in anticipation to see what would happen. ;)

[Dave]

[QUOTE=Jaygre]On a little different note (staying out of the politics, for now) This morning I saw three things I have never seen since living here, and of course, my camera was not at the ready, but I enjoyed seeing it without trying to capture:

1. A red fox dashed across the field and hung out with the cattle for awhile.
2. two grey mourning doves sitting in the tree, then on our patio for at least 10 minutes, and,
3. Two turkey vultures (real name) were hanging out as well?

What's going on here?[/QUOTE]
Earthquake ....

We used to have (urban) foxes around us. I don't know why they disappeared, it's a shame. We get magpies, crows, starlings and sometimes wood pigeons as well as all the little birds but no vultures or large birds of prey. We also have a few grey squirrels that are a pleasure to watch when they start digging our lawn up for the nuts and seeds they buried last autumn.

[Jaygre]

Oh, don't mention the "E" word - we, the the Pac. NW have a huge fault (Cascade fault) and we're always being told that there is a large earthquake about every 400-500 years, and we are in year 300 (archiologically determined) and it could happen any time! My great grandmother was killed in the fire following the 1905 San Francisco quake.

Maybe I should move to South Dakota!

[Dave]

South Dakota .... wont that get buried when Yellowstone goes up?

Going south's no good either (San Andreas fault) and as for north both Washington and Alaska have volcanoes to don't they?

What an awful place to live! :)

[Jaygre]

South Dakota's quite a way from Yellowstone - but our own Mt. St. Helens erupted again just about a month ago - and there was a a huge eruption of it in 1980 - everything turned black - and ash everywhere. The beautiful mountain was a bare hill when mother nature finished. A lot of people died and the mess was horrific for some, especially in E. Washington. Cleaning up ash was like herding goats (if you know what that is, impossible). and once it gets wet, sets up like cement!

[Newby]

We had a little trembler here on Saturday. I not a big fan of earthquakes

[Jaygre]

Yeah, even the little ones that make the windows rattle is really unnerving! Stand under the door-frame, best place in a house!

But these things are nothing compared to the tragedys of tsunamis, darfur, rwanda, etc......

[Dave]

When Yellowstone goes Mt. St. Helens will be like a damp squib in comparison, everything to the east of it including the Great Lakes and beyond is gonna get buried under more ash than you've ever seen .... that's when not if.

Worried yet? :D

(Grief Newby that's an awful animation :))

[Jaygre]

Any place for sale in your home-town, Dave, I'm on my way!

[Newby]

[QUOTE=Dave]When Yellowstone goes Mt. St. Helens will be like a damp squib in comparison, everything to the east of it including the Great Lakes and beyond is gonna get buried under more ash than you've ever seen .... that's when not if.

Worried yet? :D

(Grief Newby that's an awful animation :))[/QUOTE]


What, you don't like my new Av Dave. What's wrong with it?? :D

[QUOTE=Jaygre]Any place for sale in your home-town, Dave, I'm on my way![/QUOTE]

I wouldn't worry about Jaygre, that thing not going to erupt for a while

[123456789]

I can't wait 'til global warming creates a tropical paradise around Hudson Bay. ;)

[Jaygre]

THAT would take a MAJOR ICE AGE!!!!!!!!!

[Dave]

[QUOTE=Newby]What, you don't like my new Av Dave. What's wrong with it?? :D
[/QUOTE]The color change from black to white is almost strobe like and my brain doesn't like that. :crazy:

As for a place to live as it happens I know this lovely little bungalow going for sale .... (my wife owns a quarter share of it)

[Jaygre]

Just heard - WE HAVE A POPE!

[Newby]

[QUOTE=Dave]The color change from black to white is almost strobe like and my brain doesn't like that. :crazy:

As for a place to live as it happens I know this lovely little bungalow going for sale .... (my wife owns a quarter share of it)[/QUOTE]

WOuld you perfer that I slow down the animation or change the color. I don't want you going into epileptic shock beacuse of my Av :D

No smilies were harmed in the making of this thread

[QUOTE=Jaygre]Just heard - WE HAVE A POPE![/QUOTE]

WOW that was fast. I just read the news article on the fact that one still had not been agreed upon.

[Dave]

[QUOTE=Newby]WOuld you perfer that I slow down the animation or change the color. I don't want you going into epileptic shock beacuse of my Av :D

No smilies were harmed in the making of this thread[/quote]Change it back?


[QUOTE=Newby]
WOW that was fast. I just read the news article on the fact that one still had not been agreed upon.[/QUOTE]Damn the BBC website just died, must be getting massive hits ....

[Newby]

[QUOTE=Dave]Change it back?


Damn the BBC website just died, must be getting massive hits ....[/QUOTE]

Ok, I'll change it back to the old Av when I get home tonight

[Dave]

[QUOTE=Newby]Ok, I'll change it back to the old Av when I get home tonight[/QUOTE]
Thanks Josh, I know I'm a pain but it is hurting my eyes .... :shock:

[Chris49]

Newby, you have to put the camera in your old Av, then you'll have somthing ;)

[Newby]

[QUOTE=Dave]Thanks Josh, I know I'm a pain but it is hurting my eyes .... :shock:[/QUOTE]

I switched to a generic for the day until I can get home and fix my av. Hope this helps Dave

[Dave]

So Joseph Ratzinger becomes Pope Benedict XVI .... jobs for the boys? :)

[123456789]

brb

[Newby]

[QUOTE=123456789]brb[/QUOTE]
Hey 1-9,

I don't have PS at work. Would you mind saving it as as .gif so I can see it.

BTW Thanks for taking the time to do that

[123456789]

All this talk about Newby's av gave me an itch. I hope you don't mind Newby, but I just had to scratch. This is just goofing off (I'm still not very good with Image Ready,) but what do you think?

[Dave]

Can you take out frame 4? :)

Sorry guys but even that brief blank frame hurts ....

[Newby]

That's great 1-9!!!!!. Thank you for going through the effort of doing that. now how to get it to my Av. I wonder????

[123456789]

Dave, you're gonna' hafta' get some shades for surfin'. lol
They make welders' masks that use LCDs to black out the screen when there is an intense burst of light. Maybe you could get a less industrial version. ;)
The effect is far less annoying at 1/3 the size.

Newby, you serious?
I still owe you one for 'photo corners', so I could e-mail you the file.
PM me with your address.

[Silky]

[QUOTE=Dave]Can you take out frame 4? :)

Sorry guys but even that brief blank frame hurts ....[/QUOTE]

Maybe YOU should make his avatar. I liked it!

[Scott]

I never even saw it :)

[Dave]

[QUOTE=Silky]Maybe YOU should make his avatar. I liked it![/QUOTE]
Well I did but ....

[QUOTE=123456789]Dave, you're gonna' hafta' get some shades for surfin'. lol
They make welders' masks that use LCDs to black out the screen when there is an intense burst of light. Maybe you could get a less industrial version. ;)
The effect is far less annoying at 1/3 the size.

Newby, you serious?
I still owe you one for 'photo corners', so I could e-mail you the file.
PM me with your address.[/QUOTE]It's the new meds I'm on (I hope!) :)

[Newby]

[QUOTE=Jolt]I never even saw it :)[/QUOTE]
It was a cool one, I was very proud

[123456789]

I'm having trouble with my e-mail account. It seems to be down so I'm gonna' close my browser and try to get it out to you asap, Newby.

Jolt, just for you:

Dave, what happened to the colour? There's a new tut about that, btw... lol

[Scott]

I like it!

[snowflakejen]

It was nice! I was jealous (still am)!

[Dave]

[QUOTE=123456789]I'm having trouble with my e-mail account. It seems to be down so I'm gonna' close my browser and try to get it out to you asap, Newby.

Jolt, just for you:

Dave, what happened to the colour? There's a new tut about that, btw... lol[/QUOTE]
Hmmmmm I think my save option reduced the number of colors too much. Sometimes Image Ready and Animation Shop aren't compatible I'm finding.

[123456789]

A .gif by any other name, would it look so sweet?

[Dave]

[QUOTE=123456789]A .gif by any other name, would it look so sweet?[/QUOTE]
only if it didn't flash at me :)

/me exits stage left rather than climbing to balcony.

[Scott]

Suh-weeet 1-9

I like it.


If I could photograph at all I'd steal it :)

[Chris49]

Thats one Sweet Animation. :flash:

But if you want to portray the "newby factor" you should put the lens cap on ;) :jk:

[123456789]

I wish I had thought of that Chris. lol

[Newby]

I want to thank 1-9 for my nice shiny new Av.

Thanks again, and we're even now ;)

[libra]

Since this is free for all.... which part of Canada do you live in 1-9?

[down2earth2]

Whenever I have an animation that annoys me, I click and hold on the blue bar on the right of the page (don't know what it's called) and that staps all animation.

[Dave]

[QUOTE=down2earth2]Whenever I have an animation that annoys me, I click and hold on the blue bar on the right of the page (don't know what it's called) and that staps all animation.[/QUOTE]
Nope that don't work.

At least I can live with the small version.

BTW - it needs a thumb in front of the (covered) lens doesn't it? :) :thumbup:

[123456789]

Newby: happy to do it. Any chance I get to play in IR, I take.
Libra: Montréal

"Hey mister, aren't you gonna' take off the lens cap?"

[123456789]

D2E2, did you mean the scrollbar? And did you also mean that my animation annoys you?
*storms off in a huff*
:jk:

[down2earth2]

[QUOTE=123456789]D2E2, did you mean the scrollbar? And did you also mean that my animation annoys you?
*storms off in a huff*
:jk:[/QUOTE]
No, I like your avatar a lot. I was just offering Dave a possible way to stop the animations when he's viewing a page. And, uh yeah, I meant the little blue scrollbar thingie on the side.

[123456789]

That's what I thought you meant but it doesn't work with mine. My browser's probably out-dated. ;)

[msfrigyfrog]

hey dave just a thought at least his flash isnt flashing his arse lol it was a cool avitar i liked it and just joking about the arse i like your avitar too lol

[swillox]

Mmmm... just a tought: is Dave's av hurting someone and where ?

[PDG]

You can stop all animations on a page by pressing Esc in Firefox or the Stop button in IE.

Just useless info. :)

[albatrosss]

Actually the payout to the 9/11 families was another example of corporate welfare. Had the government not stepped in with our money the airlines and the insurance companies would have had their pants sued off. The administration couldn't care less about what happened to those people but they certainly don't want the corporations that feed them big money to go belly up.

This may be cynical but that is what I really believe.

[Jaygre]

Actually, albatross, I know a little about this since a family member died in 911. Not every person wanted or could afford the lawyer and court costs of sueing the airlines. This settlement was an OPTION, and there were many, many families who could not afford to wait for the years it would take to litigate the issue. I repeat, the settlement was an OPTION. Those who chose to sue the airlines, are sueing the airlines, those who chose not to blame the airlines or sue them were given a settlement in a timely way. The option was open to everyone. And, think about this just a little. If "the pants had been sued off" the airlines and insurance companies (which they still are), many hundreds of thousands would be out of work today, and all insurance costs would be through the roof.

Enough of my opinion. I usually never discuss politics, especially in the forums, but I am emotionally tied to this one whether I want to be or not.